Kuwaitilaistutkimus: vhh erinomainen ylipainoisille D II:lle

Tässä osiossa keskustellaan tyypin 2 diabeteksesta eli aikaisemmalta
nimeltään aikuisiän sokeritaudista ja vähähiilihydraattisesta ruokavaliosta.

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rouvaA
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Kuwaitilaistutkimus: vhh erinomainen ylipainoisille D II:lle

ViestiKirjoittaja rouvaA » 28 Huhti 2007 23:36

Ketogeenisen ruokavalion pitk?aikaista noudattamista pidet??n turvallisena. Syd?ntautien riskitekij?t v?heniv?t merkitt?v?sti.

http://www.springerlink.com/content/v72 ... c3dba&pi=0

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ViestiKirjoittaja Anja » 29 Huhti 2007 1:20

Suomessa t?llaista ei varmaan edes ajatella tutkittavaksi.

Meill? diabeetikoille suositellaan "sopivan runsaasti" hiilihydraatteja:

"Ruokavaliossa kiinnitet??n huomio valinnoista muodostuvaan kokonaisuuteen ja sen monipuolisuuteen ja terveellisyyteen. Monipuolinen ruokavalio koostuu sopivan runsaasta hiilihydraattim??r?st?, jolloin rasvan ja valkuaisaineiden m??r?t pysyv?t my?s kohtuullisina. Diabeetikot, joilla insuliinia k?ytet??n korvaavana hoitona, tarvitsevat tietoa ja ohjausta opetellessaan arvioimaan, miten hiilihydraatit vaikuttavat verenglukoosiin."

L?hde: Diabetesliitto.

http://www.diabetes.fi/diabtiet/hoitsuo ... 4.htm#a210

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ViestiKirjoittaja rouvaA » 29 Huhti 2007 11:54

"Bearin" teksteist? l?ytyi t?llaista:

Blood sugar is controlled in the absence of dietary intake, by the liver and is dead stable at ~100 mg/dl (there is no way you can have zero blood sugar- it is a necessary nutrient to brain tissue and some other tissues- at that very low level, equivalent of about 5 gms total in the body. Insulin is a very, very body-damaging compound,and is only needed in conjunction with glucagon to control glucose when the diet includes carbs. The ills, both serious and life limiting, ascribed to diabetes (not a disease) are due to exogenous insulin injections. Insulin is not produced in the absence of high blood sugar levels. Prior to injectable insulin diabetic people were able to live long and healthy lives on a zero carb ('non farinaceous') diet. Unsaturated vegetable oils, especially poly's oxidise to organic peroxides, the most powerful 'free radicals' known. These outweigh any antioxidants present in vegetables.

I have had many blood tests and 90-120 mg/dl has been labelled as the normal fasting glucose level on the returned results. Type 2 diabetes is actually the result of your body resisting this nasty chemical. Diabetes is NOT a disease, you cannot catch it, and it is not found in any other animal on this planet- the only exception is humanity's carnivorous pets if fed a grain based (dry) diet.

Real diabetes (type 1) is an auto-immune syndrome, wherein the person's own immune system, responding to the somatic damage being done by insulin seeks out the source in the pancreas and destroys the cells producing it. The process leaves untouched the rest of the cells in that important organ. Glucose is a small, simple six-carbon molecule and does not need insulin to enter any of the cells of the body, but only special densely packed specialist cells like those in the brain actually consume glucose for energy and nutrition. Insulin's primary function is to stimulate the uptake and conversion of glucose to fatty acids in the adipose cells, thus reducing hgh glucose levels after a carb-meal. Insulin is THE major cause of arterial sclerosis- by its ability to stimulate muscle-cell proliferation. This effect is especially bad for smooth muscle like is found in the intestines and arteries. The proliferative cells become scar tissue and that is what causes a loss of flexibility, and blockage of the lumen.

In a study titled 'Atherosclerosis: An insulin-dependent disease?' some interesting facts about the somatic effects of insulin were exposed. Surgically produced 'diabetic' dogs with no ability to produce insulin do not have any problem so long as no carbs are ingested. The study was done on such dogs, wherein they were catheterised in both femoral arteries and a solution of saline was applied by drip to both. A measured amount of insulin to balance their dietary carb intake was added to the saline only in one artery. After only six months the dogs were sacrificed and the arteries excised and studied. There was considerable pre-sclerotic growth found in the one supplied with the insulin solution, and none in the control artery. Hard to deny. The damage to skin collagen by glucose/insulin (stretch marks and wrinkles) is well known. Cataracts and joint damage are likewise long recognised as induced by insulin. The professional diabetes (medical) groups always refer to such damage as being caused by diabetes, which is not true. As noted, diabetes in NOT a disease. Remove dietary carbs and it literally disappears. This historic truth has been suppressed by the drug and medical professions.

Once more: My blood glucose level is normal and it has been that way for 47 years. Not 'higher than average'- 100 mg/dl IS normal. If some people nowadays are testing lower, perhaps that is why there is so much depression around- I always feel great- no mood swings and have a very positive outlook on life. I would assume that anything termed 'average' is just that, the midpoint of a range of normalcy. Like the body fat level each person will normally maintain, it is not fixed, but varies over a small range. I have never sought to be or appear 'average'- rather I like to be considered unique, at least in my art and my mentation. Let's just add my rock-stable glucose level to this.

If lack of insulin will kill type 1 diabetics on a zero carb diet, then how do you explain all the cases in the literature from the pre-insulin period which confirm that removing carbs from the diet caused the sugar to leave the urine, and permitted the person to live a normal life. I first read about this in Macarness- Eat Fat and Grow Slim, however later on I found some other old texts which confirm this diet was a successful treatment. The medical profession in conjunction with the drug manufacturers do not want you to believe you can ever give up using insulin if you are type 1. But- by all means follow your own path. I have yet to meet a type 1 who was open to even considering not taking insulin, they were all scared shitless by their doctors. So I will merely mention it. Check it out if you like. Insulin is a fairly recent drug.
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ViestiKirjoittaja pete » 29 Huhti 2007 12:25

Hienoa ett? n?it? alkaa maailmalta l?yty?!

Suomalaisilla ihmiskokeillahan asiaa on jo tutkittu ep?virallisesti vuosikausia.

Toivottavasti asia alkaisi vaikuttaa my?s suomalaiseen hoitok?yt?nt??n.

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ViestiKirjoittaja Anja » 15 Touko 2007 21:34

pete kirjoitti:Toivottavasti asia alkaisi vaikuttaa my?s suomalaiseen hoitok?yt?nt??n.


Luulen kyll?, ett? sit? saamme jonkin aikaa odottaa. Mutta ehk? v?h?n my?hemmin....


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